Weekend Snapshot - December 21

Hey Northgate,

This week, someone asked about using quotes from pastors or other sources in messages. I thought it would be helpful to address this topic here. You may or may not agree with my perspective, but I hope this gives you insight into where I’m coming from.

When I use a quote from someone, I’m endorsing the quote—not everything they’ve ever said or believed. For example, I’ve quoted Pastor Benjamin Cremer many times regarding how Christ-followers should approach politics. I find him to be one of the most insightful and wise voices on that subject. However, I don’t agree with him on everything, and I wouldn’t endorse every word he’s ever said. Honestly, I wouldn’t even endorse everything I’ve said over the years! I’ve been right, and I’ve been wrong. I’d caution against dismissing everything someone says just because you disagree with them on one issue. Proverbs 2:6 reminds us, “All wisdom comes from the LORD, and so do common sense and understanding” (CEV).

For instance, I often reference the Psalms in my messages. Many were written by David, a man who committed heinous sins, including rape. Yet I continue to share the wisdom of his words, separating the truths he spoke from the actions I don’t condone in his life. If a flawed person shares something wise and useful, should it be invalidated because of their flaws? Doesn’t that contradict what Proverbs says about wisdom coming from God?

It’s true that many pastors, unfortunately, have fallen into sin, including abuse and adultery. Bill Hybels, for example, was a ministry hero of mine and had a significant impact on my journey to becoming a pastor. He shared incredible wisdom and insight during his ministry, but we later learned about his abuse of power and mistreatment of women. Do we dismiss everything he said because of his failures? Some might, but I choose not to. When I use a quote of his, it’s not an endorsement of his entire life or ministry—it’s an endorsement of the specific idea or insight that aligns with God’s truth.

The alternative—refusing to cite the source—is even more problematic. I want to give credit where it’s due, even if it’s to someone with whom I have disagreements. So, my encouragement to you, as people tasked with listening and wisely discerning, is this: Let’s not discard all of someone’s contributions because of one area of disagreement or failure. I believe God can still use flawed people to speak wisdom to us, just as He can use their words to convey truth.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to reach out. I’m easy to find and always happy to respond.

See you this weekend!

Pastor John 

Need To Knows 

Coming Up:

  • Christmas Eve Services – Tuesday, December 24
    • 4:00 PM Family Service Designed for families with young children, this service offers a fun, age-appropriate way to celebrate Christmas. Choose between regular or battery-operated candles, and our Infant and Toddler Rooms will be open.
      7:00 PM Traditional Candlelight Service A classic Christmas Eve celebration with a meaningful message, beautiful music, and a candlelit closing.
  • Baptism, Membership, and Communion Weekend — Saturday & Sunday, December 28 & 29 — We are excited to close out 2024 with a weekend focusing on Our Choice to follow Jesus and that next steps that requires for each of us!
  • 21 Days of Prayer and Fasting — You are invited to join us for 21 days of prayer & fasting from January 1-21, 2025. Together, we will seek God, pray for His guidance, and trust Him to work in our lives and church in 2025. For daily prayers follow us on Instagram/Facebook, for adult prayer guide and kids' prayer guide click here.  Let’s make prayer our first response this year! *paper copies will be available at the information desk*
  • New Message Series - We will be kicking off 2025 with a six-week series called “Twisted Scripture” as we take a look at verses that commonly are taken out of context, misused, and misapplied. We want God’s word to inspire and shape our lives - but in order to do that, we need to properly understand what is in the Bible, and what isn’t.
  • Centered - Wednesday, January 8, 6:00pm - Northgate Sanctuary — We normally have our Centered nights of prayer and worship on the first Wednesday of the month, but since that is New Year’s Day we will be bumping it back a week to the 8th. We hope to see you there!
  • Group Leaders Gathering — Sunday, January 12, 12:15 PM — Save the date for this is valuable time to connect and get inspired for the New Year!
  • Sight & Sound Trip to See Noah in 2025! - Northgate is thrilled to announce a trip to Sight & Sound Theater August 12-14, 2025 to experience the incredible live production of Noah! This spectacular show brings the Biblical story of faith, perseverance, and God’s promises to life with stunning visuals, powerful music, and a moving message. We’re gauging interest to finalize plans, so let us know if you’d like to join us for this unforgettable journey of fellowship and inspiration! If you're interested or have questions, please reach out to Angelique (angelique@northgatefmc.com).

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